But, this is my interpretation or thoughts based on the real life events. She later dies in her bed. Versailles - Stagione 3 Episodio 10. Henriette gasps, crying and in pain. Not only did they grow up together but they were first cousins and Louis was a devout Catholic. It is so interesting to watch, given a discussion I had on Twitter earlier with some fellow fans. When Marchal goes down and Montcourt takes the knife, Louis lunges, some more fighting with Marchal again entering the fray.. and then OMG Marchal is stabbed!!! Similarly, perforation of the gall bladder may have led to an excess of bile leaking into the peritoneum causing the corruption and gangrene reported by her doctors. when Philippe asks if he were to die, her troubles would be solved. He is clearly upset. This is such a clever production team impeccable writing, brilliant cast, sumptuous sets and costumes. Wow that was odd. Here it is, mes amis! A fabulous shot of Versailles under construction and we are back inside, in Louis' chambers conducting business. In any case, Philippe is Louis victim but definitely NOT Henriettes. How accurate is Netflix Versailles? Therefore, my thoughts are strictly about the characters. He feels betrayed. He was a noble, he knew the rules.) You went north, I went south and she went west and by the time they righted themselves we found our way down by the mill stream. The writers do it over and over again, in tiny little ways that is infuriating (Philippe with his sad puppy eyes Nooooo!) Thank you (and I agree with you on all pints!!! Off they stride with purpose and a couple of guards, through the gorgeous corridors (shot in the gorgeous Vaux Le Vicomte) and with ominous background music to set the mood.
Who's who in Versailles S1-3? A guide to the French court You couldnt guarantee any would survive. The camera pans up and it is a truly magnificent sight, flowers everywhere.
VERSAILLES TV Drama on BBC2: The Real History Behind The Show - Greg Jenner It is fascinating to compare Philippes two moments of deep anguish side by side: when the Chevalier was arrested, we saw his total and complete breakdown, the slow crumple of his expression from shock, to horror, to abject grief, then as he collapsed to his knees and rocked while he wept. I have some questions. Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. Seems likely in the show (historically, this is not so the case at all). Is it any wonder she couldnt work up any concern over the possibility that her rapist might die in battle? I pity Henrietta. God knows the wolves might have taken us but what did we know? Point 8: Again, refer to comments on Henriettes lack of power as a woman and as a subject of the king to say no to said king. His contemplation is silent. Also thanks for your detailed and in depth reviews. Not long to go now, and we are with Marchal, who lies in bed, wakes suddenly and touches his stomach wound, which bleeds through the bandage. But it is kept behind closed doors. How do we find the poisoner? but it is later, after they already speak with the guards in the background. No one leaves. Louis looks stunned too. I think we see fairly good evidence in episode 7 that not only does Philippe support his brother, but that he is honestly frightened of the idea of running the country and has no desire to take his brothers place (his anger at being overlooked for the regency is more due to his hurt that no one supports him or takes him seriouslyhis experience all his life). Is anyone else hoping Fabien takes her under his wing? On the other hand, Ive never doubted for a moment Philippes loyalty to his brother or his love for him. First to Henriette, and after she was poisoned, to Elizabeth Charlotte, Princess of the Palatinate.
Versailles - Season 1 - IMDb Later on, we see the portrait back in Louiss chamber Women are still being raped today in societies which condone such behaviour towards women and which deny women their personhood. Oh, and she was the one who prepared Henriettes tea. (Historical note: mistresses were in competition with each other all the time, poison was effective and the murderer didnt have to deal with the messiness. he is troubled, hearing Montcourts whispers in his head: When we are the kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend. and so on. Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. And if you reread my words very carefully, you might realise that I never once touched on the legality of it. They grew up knowing what their duty was as prince and princess. Now she is in a marriage that will never give her any joy with a man she does not love and she should risk displeasing her lover, the king, by rejecting him? Louis has not (even though yeah, okay, protocol). Louis reels off a list of people who were with Henriette on her journey, people that must be interrogated. No doubt those in Philippes camp played on that too, to taint Henriette even more (Guiche UGH. Hes just having some fun. Louis XIV was born on 5 September 1638 in the Chteau de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, to Louis XIII and Anne of Austria. Philippe has no interest in Henriette, is not attracted to her or in love with her. Then Ep 8 miscarriage scene the painting is no longer on table. I realise a woman was expected to stay faithful to her husband even while it was acceptable for him to have mistresess (ha! I have heard many say they see angels before they die. (Ahhh! I will try, but I trust you wont publish it if you find it too long. She could have answered with an honest yes but she evades the question. Still, Louis suspicions had been aroused and he ordered an autopsy, which was performed by French doctors and witnessed by others sent from England. BRILLIANT acting. She doesnt want to speak of him. (since you mention here she is his love). Louis staggers to his feet, Montcourt bleeding out on the floor, and he goes to Marchal, who has collapsed near the fireplace. King Louis XIV (George Blagden, left) and Henriette (Nomie Schmidt) arrive at "Versailles" in the Ovation series. As Mme de Svign wrote: She was taken ill and died within eight hours, and we have lost with her all the joy, all the charm and all the pleasures of the Court. But in context, with everything else going on in the show and with what Philippe deals with, I can understand why he did it. Louis looks strained, says: I do not regret sending her. They take her hands. At least there is a modicum of decorum. John Clare 191 subscribers Henrietta of England, Duchess of Orlans rushes to Louis XIV's chambers after being poisoned. Even though Henriette had a history of pains (since 1667) and drank only milk and basically ate nothing (she was considered quite a stick in the fashion of the day, and some historians suggest she suffered from anorexia), the poison theory stuck. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. Yes, it was common to talk about marriage that soon! The writers want us to think that evrry time they had kids, he had to rape her? How can people not see Rohans calculating glances, his sly little looks? Louis, who never forgave a slight, always ensured that the guilty paid dearly. The marriage was doomed from the start, because Henriette was already in love with Louis, it seems. This really shows he is vulnerable. (We wont even go into whether or not that maid wanted to be drug into the bedroom by Philippe after his jealous strop with the Chevalier or his sneaking into Louises bed. Incest or homosexuality?
Fact-checking Versailles: how historically accurate is the BBC drama? Gaston de Foix was arrested and tortured as the potential poisoner by Fabien. Royal FamilyKing Louis XIV Arranged Marriage: To Marie-Thrse Boom, Headshot! You, me, Henriette. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. So do I believe that our enemies would dare to poison King Charles of Englands sister? I love these seemingly random yet distinct choices made by directors and production designers. Then he turns and suddenly a Man In a Mask is standing there. Unfortunately, Louis paranoia and selfishness blind him to this. Stars: George Blagden, Alexander Vlahos, Tygh Runyan Director(s . Montespan banters but Louis doesnt bite. She causes her father distress, embarasssment, hurt. Henriette of England died in Saint-Cloud, not in Versailles. We see Louis take what is rightfully and lawfully his his wife. Louis is a shit to Philippe. They are singing. Minor detail maybe, but not sure if that doesnt change the meaning of the next bit somewhat? A rant about the UK press and their Versailles reviews. The opening episode of Versailles season two featured fortune tellers and laser beams. There are a few movies I enjoy that are fairly accurate. See production, box office & company info. It could possibly be the same spot from Ep1, when he confronted the wolf and Philippe rode in to rescue him. Because no one knows that Cassel is one of the conspirators (and UGH I dont know WHY the Chevalier just didnt tell Marchal or Louis???) See above comments about Henriettes powerlessness as a woman. In summary, of the four people involved in this sad businessLouis, Philippe, the Chevalier and HenrietteHenriette is the most powerless, the one with the least choice in anything. When we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away. but it would cause her too much pain. Hi, Hi Janet! It is not clear in the show. Historically, poison was definitely suspected in Henriette's death and briefly, here's how it went down: It was 1670 and Henriette was pissed off she couldn't be with Louis at Versailles, and of course Monsieur knew this, so he ordered her to accompany him to Saint Cloud. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. We stake our claim or we are ploughed into the field. It was generally believed that she had been poisoned by one of her husband's friends, but historians have concluded that she died of natural causes, perhaps of a ruptured appendix. Fashion. (Historical note: it was forbidden for the King to be in the presence of death. , Question, did real Louis also love Henriette, or was it unrequited? It was total and raw and real and I wept long and bitter tears for him. Louis orders the Versailles garden to be brought into Henriette's deathbed scene.
Louis XIV of France | Versailles Wiki | Fandom And Louis is left in the salon, framed by the door, the guards, and looking incredibly vulnerable and alone. She is not indulgent in it. We will never know if Louis and Henriette ever did consummate their attraction, but the gossip of the time most definitely swayed in that direction. Im genuinely having real trouble understanding your position here. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. Le Roi Danse, which is all about the rise and fall of Lully, Louis XIVs court composer (French, but hard to find with English subtitles). Pity that they made his character too emo, too frustrated and angry with the world, when he actually was full of joie de vivre, always smiling, always chattering, always ready to find the good in every person and every sistuation. And to Ainee for perspective. "Versailles" and I met by chance on Netflix. And I see all the little things that Henriette says, her little gestures and actions that bring conflict and sadness to Philippe. Inside Versailles Henriette Sister of King Charles II of England, Henriette - known as Madame - is the wife of Philippe and the mistress of King Louis. So that would perhaps put affair-with-sister-in-law a half tick closer to pardonable than homosexuality, which is wholly and completely condemned in the bible. In every possible way. .. now, I am not saying that Colbert is implying Philippe poisoned his wife, but it sure sounds like it. Jules! In which case, I dont blame her one bit! And Philippe says calmly and quietly: There. Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. Are you suggesting that she would have the power to deny the king even if she wanted to? Hell, HIS WIFE is shagging his brother. We are shown much more of Philippes inner mind and his relationship to Louis than anyone else. Louvois has been a kind of double agent all along, directed by Louis himself to assume the role of critic and conspirator. *Disclaimer* I do not own any of the audio or footage included in this. OMG!). Much kudos to Nomie Schmidt for a brilliantly sad scene, aided by the backing music and the strength and emotion of George Blagden and Alex Vlahos. for all of these. Yes, she says and does little things that hurt Philippe, but he does the same and muchoh so much!worse to her. Director Daniel Roby Writers Simon Mirren David Wolstencroft Stars George Blagden Alexander Vlahos Tygh Runyan See production, box office & company info At the time of his birth, his parents had been married for 23 years. We found an old building a sorry shack made of stone and moss. She is simply besotted with Louis, so in love, that shed do anything he told her to. Her breath falters: Im scared. And the look on Louis and Philippes faces as they both lean in to comfort her *sobs* Philippe says gently: There is nothing to fear. Henriette: How do you know? Philippe: do you remember before you were born? Two steps behind him, as protocol dictates, is the Chevalier. But of course, she wants to know what happened to her mother in exchange for that information. Philippe adds: .or two, perhaps. And he strides off. UGH, Henriette. Let me know when the doctor arrives, Louis says, and leaves. I was more appalled at Louis seeming lack of concern for his brothers life. And she was having an affair with the Comte de Guiche. Trusting Philippe and involving him in the running of France would make him a better, stronger king. I do understand you are a fan of Philippe, but I dont understand why that nessitates that Henriette be viewed as the villian. In the early hours of 30 June, she died. After Philippe shoots a couple rounds into the air he tells Louie, Brother we must go, the wolves will come back and there will be more. Did you have the same thought as I; that while in the moment the characters are talking about the actual wolves, the underlying message is about Louis and the traitors in his midst, starting with Moncourt. There was no indication of poisoning, so death was attributed to cholera morbus caused by corrupt and boiling bile, which had led to gangrene in the entrails and other parts of the lower abdomen. NOT AT ALL acceptable in the eyes of pretty much everyone. In Ep 3, I believe this is the first time we see the painting, it is in Louiss chambers, to the left of the fireplace on an easel on the floor. Also, Louiss eyes are wet earlier than you recount, namely in the first shot after she says can you hear the flowers? Around 5pm on 29th June Henriette drank chicory water, then keeled over saying Ah! Lovely. And were never coming back. The Chevalier makes the sign of the Cross (like the good Catholic he is), sweeps a look across the room to Cassel? (*cries*), Bontemps goes to see Louis. The Henriette thing is just one more on the heaping pile of shit. Philippe and Henriette are quite possibly the two people Louis loves most, and yet he uses and hurts them both repeatedly to get what he wants and because he is paranoid about his brother. Cassel leaves, then Montcourt walks away in the direction of Rohan who is discussing the Dauphins outing with a guard. As for Philippe, I cant make out what he is. Bontemps says: protocol demands that if the air is impure and if you are at risk, you must leave immediately. (this is true) Marchal strides in to take command. Of his power, of his country. I first read your reviews right after watching the entire series and then again after recently rewatching all 30 ep again. He took the bottle to drown his sorrows as it were, after he hit Claudine, feeling remorse, I would think. We must get the king and the queen and yourself to safety at once. And the penny drops for Bontemps, his look of dismay so clear. I realise that you are not a fan of the historical figure but I am speaking strictly of the character. Well, my thought is Philippe angrily claiming his conjugal rights may well have happened before. She finally asks. Photograph: BBC. Last scene, with Louis silent and stoic, standing on a stone that overlooks a glorious view of the forest with Versailles in the distance. Yes, of course its common knowledge that Louis is shagging Henriette. Okay, is Louvois just being a dick? The steps, the swinging of the arms, the movement of the coat and their cravats. Claudine confirms: We have no choice. Dear Anne, Im guessing I know a fair bit more about rape, the history of rape, the history of rape within marriage and womens rights (and lack thereof) than you realise. Louis looks mega pissed. So to me, this indicates hes still quite scared. To spare his feelings? Dieu. Philippe is jealous. And Philippe is the one who looks tortured, he is the emotional one, while Louis remains stoic. Louis stands outside: her life is in your hands, he says ominously. Obviously he loves Chevalier. In walks Philippe, now fully dressed (and what a fine figure he is!) So thats why I believe that the most that Louis felt for Henriette was that he only loved her a little or to some degree but not enough. Louis walks in and replies: because I ask him to do so. Ahhhhh-HA! Still wouldve loved to read your long comment was it complimentary? We now see Philippe, so resigned, with tears down his cheeks, then Louis with a no, this is NOT happening. look on his face, eyes still dry. Marchal is still ordering: Get his Majesty to safety, at once! His guards rush in to remove him, they scuffle and Louis yells: get your hands off me! THIS. There are times when I will shout (in my head), Just leave this place and run back to England.. UGH, technology! Learn how your comment data is processed. Then the camera pans to the door and Philippe enters, says to him quietly, were leaving. . First off let me say that I absolutely love your reviews of Versailles, Ms. Jules. She stays. Philippe: And so do I.. Point 10: The abnoxious snog in front of Henriette. Is it fair? I know times and attitudes were different then, but a person violated still feels violated, whether they are allowed to acknowledge it or not. Ah, but not so devout that Louis followed all the teachings. Hes not gonna tell him of Rohan outright, is he? I cant always catch what is being said, particularly if it an aside or a whisper but I know you will tell me . Especially in S1, I got the feeling that they gave a lot of Lorraines personality traits/reactions/behaviour to Philippe. However, the court (and her brother, Charles II) was told she died of natural causes so he could hardly behead anyone for murder after that.
Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb No context is provided about who he is, no indication he is married. Slavery was also an accepted practice of the day. Henriette portrayed by Pierre Mignard, 17th century, Henriette, Duchesse d'Orlans, the sister-in-law of Louis XIV, took a drink of her usual chicory water and immediately clutched her side, crying out in pain. and especially when he proved himself in battle and all of Paris cheered him and adored him. At a Mass said for her soul, Bishop Bossuet conveyed the sense of shock at her sudden death: Oh, disastrous night; oh, dreadful night, in which resounded like a clap of thunder the unbelievable words Madame is dying Madame is dead!. Why is this so? By this point, Louis had basically forgotten about and gotten over Henriette though this was much to her displeasure and chagrin. on The finale. The one she loves the most. We were taking the air with our governess when we made a break for freedom. Should Claudine be villified for showing up her father? Grrrr well Im not writing all that over again. you wanted to make it your castle. Henriettes physicians diagnosed colic and assured her that she would soon recover, but it was clear that she was dying. And Montespan was married too, so in the eyes of the church that was double adultery. I let a wolf back into my barn! Montcourts hand slides to his hip, Marchal sees this (good Chief of Police *pets his pretty head*) and Montcourt still denies, Louis accuses him of poisoning Henriette. I am tired of waiting for you to keep it, says the Queen casually as she gets into bed with Louis then settles down. fantastic bog! I COMMAND YOU! and the guards step back.
The Mysterious Death of Henriette, Duchesse d'Orlans Henriette. It can be quite shocking to us, but pretty much most children died before adulthood people mourned, mirrors were covered and a service held, but some didnt wait more than a few days before picking themselves up and going off to the next party or ball or soiree. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. The camera then cuts to Rohan, drinking and brooding in his room, absently stabbing the table with a knife as he glares at a portrait of Louis-as-a-boy (which is a gorgeous portrait and includes Philippe, apparently in a private collection and attributed to artist Charles Beaubrun. First off, let me preface my response with the qualifier that I know very little about the historical figures on which these characters are based. But of course, she has no power to rid herself of him, so his death would be her only chance. Bontemps suddenly appears; Henriette has been calling. She puts her foot in her mouth. He has poisoned all of them. But Louis, he just wanted her close, and so married her to his brother. Snake! Aaaaaand there we have the end of the episode and the end of Season One. Rohan is the Masked Man! The advice you took came from only one source. the door opens, and Montespan enters. You really point out a lot of details one might miss when watching the episodes for the first time. Louis meanwhile, is disorientated (and by this time I am wondering where the guards are with all this noise, despite Marchal telling them not to disturb them). . Cassel passes him and bows. Philippe has been by her side throughout this. Is there anything more beautiful than the scent of blossom in the air? Henriette gets out softly. Aaaaaand now. There is no change. In reality it only took a very short time for the plan to take full effect. I am really liking Sophies growth as a character, who is, of course, beautiful, but with attitude and a strong backbone, as we are now seeing. Nothing. Claudine doesnt know how long Henriette has left, but it is her wish to see you both. Also, Henriette has asked to be carried to the garden so that she might be surrounded by her favourite flowers. (Philippes gentle smile is so bittersweet here!) Thanks for reading! Louis strolls over to the fireplace and picks up a poker, calmly summarising whats happened on his roads, his people dying, attempts on his own life, and now his beloved Henriette. Thatd do it. Now that *would* be naive. And Louis coming out the good guy. Sorry to jar you There are just some things I couldnt overlook, and I admit I was looking at Henriettes character so closely, to see if the screenwriters would sweeten her up from her historical figure. All of these things have the power to change a nation from within. He sent poison to Paris, where it passed through several hands before ending up in the jug containing the chicory water. Hi Jules and Aly, Henriette is Philippes wife, his property, his to do with as he wishes. Whew! She is subject to the whims and wishes of her king and lover, of her husband and even of her husbands lover. I also cannot figure out why Louis and others speak freely in front of the guards when even they are unsure of their loyalty.. I cannot permit it, he says. He sees Louis. The king himself suspected that Henrietta might have been poisoned and ordered an autopsy to be carried out. Colbert tries to push his point when Louis enters. UHGGH.
BBC Two - Versailles, Series 1 - Henriette If anything, his expression pays deference to her status as a princess, hes contemplating his own mortality. Merci! Hmm. (For the record, I am speaking strictly of the characters in this drama, not the historical characters). Henriette feels nothing for Philippe, he not having put any more effort into endearing himself to her than she to him and he also complicating things for her where Louis is concerned. Poisoned? Arguably, as a man, it was within Philippes power to end his relationship easily enough whereas Henriette, a woman, would very possibly not have had that same power. However, Madeleine de Foix, Gaston's mother, defends her son at the salon, but when facing banishment, she stabs Fabien, almost killing him. and Nine. Louis is calm but angry: then you set yourself against me. Philippe pauses, looks incredibly sad for a moment, then briefly nods. ? In this respect, they are both on fairly equal footing. In my opinion, I agree with Teresa. Much later, the courtier Saint-Simon offered his own thoughts. The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. The Angelique series of movies from the 60s are highly camp, and put Philippe in a terrible light, but they are funny. We learn that she has loved Louis since they were children. It was just how it was.
Versailles: Season One Episode Ten - Ruminating Rosie This is Louis in control, in power, and he delivers a malevolent, threatening banter that is fabulous to see. Philippe is most definitely not the victim in his marriage.
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