Thus, the judicious reloader should not try to soup up handloads. with Hornady Manufacturing Company bullets either below or in our load database by clicking the 'Matching Loads' button above. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Groups were nice round clusters, not two here and three there. Ballistic uniformity was just fine, with the coefficient of variation (C.O.V.) 3100 fps. This result is almost unheard When I prepare for the spring gopher campaign, I load a big batch of .223s with this powder and 40-grain bullets. I'll be headed to the range this weekend and hope that this new load will shoot accurately while looking for signs that the load may be to hot. Extreme velocity spread for those loads was only 53 fps. Notes: This data was shot by Brian Pearce, Wolfe Publishing Company. H322 w/ 50 gr. Winchesters Model 1894 lever-action rifle made its debut that year, and it became immensely popular. But do you know how to properly use them? is rimless, it headspaces on its relatively small shoulder. 260 Remington - Sniper Central However, the key word here is initial velocity. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. All bullets were molly coated, and the groups are 5 shots at 100 yards. 7mm Rem Mag - Accuracy Load | Long Range Hunting Forum Gee, I thought there'd be a bunch of posts on this one! .22-250 Remington (Pet Loads) | Handloader Magazine Ackley and others began developing centerfire cartridges smaller than .22 caliber soon after the end of World War II, and they really got busy during the 1950s. The Cooper Model 21 Varminter I have been using for about several years consistently squeezes five shots inside a half-inch at 100 yards with the various bullet weights. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. REMINGTON Premier AccuTip-V: high 2626 fps; low 2591 The early models were chambered in a suite of cartridges that covered the American hunters needs. Parker Otto Ackley wore many different hats. 22g of H322 with a 25g Berger, always use a thick cup primer in the 17 Remington: I've never had fouling problems, even when standing on them. My personal-for-my- Caspiangun-only most accurate load came from them pesky Rainier 200g PHPs that I couldn't get to run right until I loaded them over a wee bit (3.8g) of Bullseye. shooter error--were ignored, but all other hits were included in the Case life is long, and barrel life is normally around 7,000 or 8,000 rounds (at least for minute-of-varmint accuracy) due largely to the modest pressures and rather small powder charges. Groups were measured from center to center of the When both are loaded to maximum chamber pressures and fired in barrels of the same length, the Ackley cartridge is about 100 fps faster. Kindler 30gr Gold bullets and RL-15 takes the .17 Rem to a new level of killing power. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. Hornady Subscriber Services. Re: 17 Remington Likes Dislikes [Re: andrews1958] #6836728 This is still capable of cleanly killing a fox. Loading 40 grains each of the three 4350s with Sierra 100-grain GameKing bullets in a .243 Winchester rifle. Anything that travels at those speeds with such a small mass will have a small ballistic coefficient. At longer ranges past 200 yards the 30-grain bullets do not always expand predictably, so take note. load in a winchester mod. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. The 20-grain bullets offer a good compromise over the industry standard 25-grain as they can be loaded faster. He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. staff members, including yours truly, shot groups through five An increase of another 0.5 grains yields a further 150fps increase and a round 26 grain only adds a 45fps increase. Need your favorite loads for 17 Remington, Re: Need your favorite loads for 17 Remington, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Accuracy for a charge of 44.0 grains of LVR was excellent at 0.90 inch. The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. | Does anyone know how much smaller the volume is on this brass vs Rem brass? 26. I use a book max load of varget of 24.5g and 25 grain berger match HP's. Ive burned several pounds of A-2700 in the .22-250 and Swift. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. need to hold 5.5" above the desired point of impact. The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. 70 and a sako vixen is: Rem case , cci bencrest pr., 21.2 gr. Handloading the .222 Remington | Handloader Magazine Choose the most accurate and effective bullet weight in your own gun. and Shooting Online Chrony chronograph. Some burn cleaner, some have better load densities, but RL15 stands out as the best in my gun yours may well be different. Following is a brief description of each of the five Same goes for the Mach IV and Fireball, although the velocity difference between the two bullet weights is less in them. Jeff has done a great job with the conversion and I finally had some time this weekend to sight in the gun and test some loads. I tried 26 grains of Win 760 with hornady 25grain hps and got some better results with that(not that much better though only about 1.5 MOA). For decades, I burned every powder imaginable in the .35 Whelen with hopes of firing 250- grain bullets at 2,400 fps. We will continue to update this list as new rifles are reviewed and additional data becomes available. I load 44.5 grains of the powder with Sierra 50-grain BlitzKing bullets for the same velocity from the 26-inch barrel of a Winchester Model 70 Varmint. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. After firing many rounds through a Marlin Model 336, I have to say that LVR is far and away the best powder for this cartridge, but there are several other propellants that also work well. JavaScript is disabled. I fired 21 handloads in the Model 336 and 10 loads in the Outfitter. largest group 2-3/8"; mean average group = 1-13/32". The CZ 7.62x39 grouped three Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets in .69 inch with LT-32 and into 1.05 inches shooting LT-30. As with any reloading project, after charging the cases, it is prudent to shine a flashlight into each and every case to see that they all have powder in them and that the powder is at the same level. In addition to the soft polymer tip, the FTX has a high antimony core, and the jacket has the InterLock ring for reliable penetration and good expansion. Hornady, Remington, and Winchester list new cartridge cases, although the modest popularity of the round makes their availability spotty. The claimed 100 yard figures are 1901 fps and 136 ft. lbs. You can use W-748 - 29gn drives the Hornady 50gn Z-Max at 3400 fps; 28gn gets the Speer 52gn HP going 3350 fps; 27gn drives the Sierra 55gn Super Roo at 3300; and 25.5gn pushes the Hornady 60gn V-Max along at about 3100 fps. that the averages below would have been smaller if testing had taken All Extreme velocity spread was 12 fps. I am sure The brass is good quality and it's great for reloading, and the loaded ammo isn't much more expensive once fired brass, which is hard to find for the .22 Hornet. Bullet weight: 168, 180 Berger HVLDs. You find load data for cartridges in caliber .17 Rem. Using the data guides .223 62,350-psi maximum average pressure loads, I used A-2520 to shoot 60-grain bullets at nearly 3,000 fps, 65-grain bullets at 3,037 fps and 69-grain bullets at 2,788 fps. like the weather in Eugene, wait a while and it will change.) The powder produced good accuracy and velocity with bullets cast from an RCBS 45-405-FN mould and fired in a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun .45-70. Not good. 100 yard groups running from .5 minute of angle (MOA) to .9375 MOA and became obvious that we were also, unavoidably, testing the ammunition .17 Remington cartridge review review - Shooting UK This bullet is a plastic-tip, boat-tail design that is .17 Remi After that, the die is set for head-spacing on the shoulder of the case. Need your favorite loads for 17 Remington - 24hourcampfire Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? all five .17 HMR loads delivered significantly higher Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. 165 yards, for a MPBR (+/- 1.5") of 165 yards. The full-page lead photo was filled with two hunters, one tiny rifle and a huge Alaskan brown bear wearing a hide that surely squared 10 feet or better. Bought one several years ago, since I load 17HH and 17 Rem. The Berger bullets, to date, have all achieved an unblemished record of one-shot kills with tiny entry holes, total expansion within the body cavity and no exits on medium sized, and sometimes smaller, foxes. We offer Hornady load data with over 180.000 loads in our database, covering over 300 Hornady bullets in over 175 calibers with all suitable powders on the market. Plus, these fine-grained powders metered well. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. With the Hornady 200-grain RN, a charge of 44.0 grains gave a velocity of 2,145 fps, with a muzzle energy of 2,044 ft-lbs. can also be quite accurate. 223 Rem + 223 AI Cartridge Guide within AccurateShooter.com AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. The .223 Remington is America's favorite cartridge according to rifle and ammunition sales. The Berger reloading manual shows the exact same maximum powder charge weights for both. Similar threads 17 fireball and reloader 10 bobcat93 Apr 12, 2016 Reloading Forum (All Calibers) 136 ft. lbs. Note: Complete reviews of all of these rifles can be found on the Product Reviews index page. CCI TNT: high 2613 fps; low 2517 fps; extreme spread Twenty-five grains of RL15 then tips the magical 4,000fps limit with an average velocity of 4,175fps and 580ft/lb of energy. The Western data guide contains 5.56x45mm (5.56 NATO) load data developed in a .223 Remington chamber with Winchester .223 cases (so they are okay to shoot in either a .223 or 5.56 chamber) with a maximum average pressure of 62,350 psi. Cartridge Use & HistoryThe .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. At 200 yards you will A number of the cartridges were Ackleys designs while the others had been sent to him by various other developers for inclusion in his two-volume Handbook For Shooters & Reloaders. hotter than the one listed in the 1st post and hope to be getting approx. 7,024. Hornady HP cut a notch in the tailbone segment and the shock killed the darned Coyote. his or her individual rifle. I also use Berger bullets, which offer weights from 15-grain, 18-grain, 20-grain, 22-grain and 25-grain bullets, with two heavier bullets of 30 grain and 37 grain. This means the bullet hits dead on at 145 yards and about 1.5" low at British deer: A guide to identifying the six species found here and where to stalk them, Choosing the right bullets for deer stalking. However, I have a good H4350 load for the. The 6.5 bullets have very high ballistic coefficients and sectional density for their weight. 4831 is the better powder for the 25/06. Favorite loads for your .17 Remington - PredatorMasters Forums Good factory-loaded .22-250 ammunition is offered by Black Hills, Federal, Hornady, Remington, and Winchester. Then there are always the cases from fired factory loads. went on to be chambered in Remington Model 14 and 141 pump actions, the Model 81 semiautomatic, and the Model 30 bolt action. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). 3. After that, if you are still not getting This pleasant outdoor facility offers target stands at Finally, beware of reduced loads, as we want to make sure that all bullets make it out of the barrel. readily available in our local area. Commercial .22-250 Remington Loaded Ammunition There is a vast array of A 50-grain V-Max exiting the .22-250 Rem. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. REMINGTON Premier AccuTip-V: smallest group 13/16"; Five loads with A-4064 and 40-, 50- and 55-grain bullets in the .22-250 averaged .68 inch for five-shot groups. Barrel Break-In: What It Is. rifles still filling freezers with venison, walls with mounted deer heads, and floors with bearskin rugs. However, bullet performance and wind drift will invariably play a more important role at these ranges. Absolutely uncanny.. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, 11 Top Hunting Rifles Chambered in .350 Legend, Remington .50-70 Rolling Block History: New York's Pick to Arm Its National Guard, Sweet Scents of Gun Solvents and Oils: 12 Perfumes for Firearms, 10 Great .22 Mag Bolt-Action Rifles Right Now, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. M1903 Springfield - Wikipedia This has been the most consistantly accurate load combo I've found for both 222s'. The .35 Rem. The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. If my 57-year-old eyes are clear that day. Favorite loads for your .17 Remington - PredatorMasters Forums Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at Log In ] Predator Masters Home Forums Hunting Reloading & Ammo Favorite loads for your .17 Remington Register User Forum List Calendar Active Topics FAQ Who's Online Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 > The Rossi RB17 can usually be had for well under $200 but have all the features the .17 HMR crowd looks for including a 21-inch free-float barrel with integrated Weaver-style scope mounts. I always have space for at least one .17 Remington rifle because, for sub-200-yard fox and varmint shooting, I can think of no other faster, effective and safe round. Ive loaded A-2495 in the .243 Winchester shooting 70-grain bullets. (Several gun experts of my acquaintance think the likelihood of such an explosion is slight, but why take a chance?). The .223 is inexpensive, easy to use well, low recoiling, and often very accurate even with military ball-type ammunition. The newest loading manuals, such as Speers Number 15 and Hornadys 11th edition, list loads for a bunch of new powders, so I had to give them a whirl. gave us the best aiming precision. .17 Rem. & Hornady Manufacturing Company | Reloading Data Accurate 2460 shot 20- and 25-grain bullets a good 250 fps faster than other powders loaded in the .17 Fireball, and with great accuracy. All rights reserved. They are accurate, flat shooting, quiet and have practically no The .32-40 and .38-55 blackpowder cartridges came first, as Winchester had not yet perfected harder, nickel-steel barrels for the jacketed bullets that were loaded later in smokeless-powder rounds. ammunition manufacturers for chronograph testing. Conclusion My most accurate 41 mag load still is a Lyman 410610 GC WW pushed by 21.3 grains 296 in my 41 Mag Dan Wesson 8 " heavy barrel. Of course, varmint hunting is an outdoor Seems like once I settle on a load, the bullet is discontinued. Throwback Thursday: 5 Good .223 Remington Loads It had a 24-inch heavy barrel. Moving up in powder capacity, the .17 Mach IV was introduced during the 1960s by Las Vegas gunsmith Vern OBrien, whose custom rifles were on the dainty Sako L46 action. MagPro loaded in the .270 Winchester shot two different 150-grain bullets a touch slower than 2,900 fps. place at an indoor range. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. The .223 Remington was developed as a varmint cartridge. I later bought an OBrien rifle in .17 Mach IV, and after shooting it for about 10 years, I sold it to a collector. BP-B2. Remington 7 1/2. When I had my Browning B78 in 6mm Remington, I used a Hornady 87 grain bullet with IMR 4350 for everything including deer even though it had no channeler. Only thing I don't like about the 17 cal is, bullets. Top accuracy in .222 Rem - ACCURATE RELOADING Groups hover around an inch at 100 yards. #9. h1000, 160gr AB's, fed215's and good brass will get you what your looking for. CCI 450. A few .12 and .14 calibers emerged, but those of .17 caliber ended up being the most popular. As A-2230s name implies, its designed around the .223 Remington. Federal Hunter Match. I have shot several five-shot groups that only had three bullet holes on target. The Federal Premium V-Shok load we tested uses a 17 The 220-grain bullet clocked 2,131 fps over 43.0 grains of LVR. Mag. The 20-grain bullet can be pushed to over 4200 fps, and the 25-grain bullet breaks the 4000 fps mark, as well. Powder shortages over the last few years have also aided Accurates acceptance, as handloaders turned to alternatives for unavailable favorites. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. And it was even chambered in the Winchester Model 70 bolt action, the Marlin Model 336 lever action, the Mossberg Model 479, the Savage Model 170 pump gun, and the Traditions Performance Firearms Outfitter G2 break-action single shot. The I have weighed four brands of cases and found considerable variation (10.4 percent) from the lightest (Hornady, at 145.0 grains) and the heaviest (Winchester, at 160.1 grains). Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets loaded over LT-32 and fired from a CZ 527 7.62 x39 formed this 100-yard group. at 100 yards. 0 gr with H4350 in 30-06 using a 165 gr sierra HPBT. Loads are also listed for the .219 Zipper and .225 Winchester, which are rarely seen in the varmint fields these days. I have experimented with H380, Varget and other powders and they all work well. Nov 26, 2017. 5. There is only so much powder you can burn efficiently down that tiny barrel diameter, and because of this, very small changes of powder weights can give skyward pressures and inconsistency, therefore change your powder weights by 1?10th increments. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. . We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. .17 HMR Rifles: The 8 Best Picks on the Market - Wide Open Spaces 7mm Remington Magnum - Wikipedia 17 Fireball accuracy. blank range (MPBR), allowing a 1.5" deviation above and below the line These results speak for themselves. When introducing the .17 Remington Fireball in 2008, Remington copied the .17 Mach IV case with the exception of a couple of dimensions. commodity on earth and we weren't about to waste what we had learned, at 4,300 fps and is zeroed two inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on the money at 300 yards.
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